TJ ([info]biosage_x) wrote,
@ 2009-04-28 11:08:00
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Current mood: curious

Can i get some opinions on pro-life and or pro-choice? What do you all think? I am incredibly curious.

My opinion will be given at the end, and I don't want to sway anyone to post or to shy away from posting. Please make your answers detailed if possible, and be honest. back up your answer~!

thanks guys.


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[info]ms_gamgee_89
2009-04-28 03:33 pm UTC (link)
It's pretty handy that you're asking about something that I'm basically an expert on, lol. As secretary of the pro-choice group on campus, I think that sums up what I think, but I'll talk about why.

First of all, the argument as to whether a fertilized egg is a baby or not is irrelevant to me. I am one of the people who is pro-choice and also believes that abortion kills a baby. I mean... duh.

The main thing for me is that a potential person does not count more than a real, living woman. Not just her actual physical life; her social, emotional, mental, SOUL life. There are many reasons to have an abortion; no one should have a baby that they don't want. And in answer to the adoption issue, how about we get all the kids that are in foster care and child protective services into loving homes first, huh?

Something that a lot of people don't realize is that a full half of fertilized eggs never implant, so there's no pregnancy, and 1/3 of those that do end in spontaneous miscarriage within the first trimester. Most women who have a potential baby lose it before they know they have it.

In this case, if abortion is murder, is being one of those women equivalent to involuntary manslaughter? On that issue: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk6t_tdOkwo

If you're about the idea that abortions are harmful to women, which is a rare argument but I come across it enough: from the New England Journal of Medicine, from 2007, (probably the most respected medical journal in existence): They polled women who had abortions in the US over several years and just under 7% felt any regret at all. By the way, that's within the range of statistical error, so that number could technically be as low as 1 or 2 percent over a wider sample. Enough said on that.

Basically, in my opinion, to be anti-choice is to be anti-woman. The majority of anti-choice legislation is made by a group of people who have never been pregnant and never will: old men. To me, a woman's future and a woman's health are far more important than a hypothetical addition to the existing almost 7 billion already wandering around this world.

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-28 03:58 pm UTC (link)
i am mixed on the issue

i am incapable of having children and would not know how to approach it with lack of experience

pregnancy is a complicated process and so is parenthood

i believe that a law so widespread can hurt a cause that is very conditional

if its either someone getting abortions for the hell or it, someone who was careless, someone who was raped

though having the law wouldn't hurt

simply having the option doesn't augment its chances of happening more frequently

simply soak this in as a 'undecided' i have no way of wrapping my head around a justifiable opinion. tender subject.

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-28 03:58 pm UTC (link)
I agree with a lot of the points above.

However, I still see abortion as murder. It's intent. It's choice. For a woman to decide that they don't want the child that they are carrying, that they are unwilling to love it unconditionally, is a sad and terrible thing.

See, that's what it is. To choose is to love conditionally. To abort is to say, well, maybe I'll have kids, but it's not convenient right now. It's a refusal to take responsibility for an action.

That's how I see it. However, I believe in others' rights to their beliefs, and even with that aside I don't see legislation against abortion as a solution to the underlying problem. If a parent is not going to love their child, there's nothing anyone can do to force them to. So I am pro-choice, politically. However, I think the frequency of abortion is indicative of a greater social illness and a desire for the comfort of the self above all else.

And tho I see it as somewhat irrelevant (for an individual opinion), I am female. However, I won't be bearing children and am not going to find myself in this position, short of rape. I do hope someday that I can adopt or otherwise help to raise a child that isn't mine tho, and I hope to be an example by loving that kid unconditionally.

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Well, You asked and I love you so very very much.
[info]keikeikun
2009-04-28 05:14 pm UTC (link)
Really, abortion is one of those issues I feel shouldn't be one. A woman getting an abortion doesn't negatively affect society. (Effect? I swear I'll never get those two right!) So there isn't a single reason it should be in issue.

I've known someone who's had an abortion, and the Sun kept on shining, the Earth kept on spinning, and nobody even noticed it happened. And to be fair, she was one of those women you hear about who didn't care, had unprotected sex all the time, got a child, decided " I just don't feel like having a child," and got an Abortion. *Paraphrasing because her words were much less appropriate*

Like most political issues, this one is filled with one sided, stubborn arguments that won't go anywhere for a long time.I'm not neutral on the issue by any means, but I don't know if I could call myself pro-anything either. I'm "Pro-stfu-and-let-those-who-want-abortions-get-them-and-those who-don't-not"

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Re: Well, You asked and I love you so very very much.
(Anonymous)
2009-04-29 02:44 am UTC (link)
That woman has every right to be careless and selfish. I am in favor protecting her rights.

And I still consider her a disgusting human being who can't deal with consequence but will probably end up with an STD, which you can't abort. Karma's a bitch. :)

Really now, people are pro-choice for the dumbest reasons. Just because something doesn't affect YOU or society as a whole does not mean that it is morally justifiable.

With Love,
Anonymous #2

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Re: Well, You asked and I love you so very very much.
[info]ms_gamgee_89
2009-04-30 12:21 am UTC (link)
...*sigh*

Just have to say, not everyone who gets knocked up is careless or selfish. Contraception is imperfect. You can wear a condom, be on the pill, and use a spermicide, and STILL get pregnant. Or you could always be, you know, raped.

And for anyone who tries to tell me, "well, then don't have sex," welcome to being a human being. Sex is something we do. I'm sorry if I don't want to deny an instinctive part of my existence because there's a possibility that I could get pregnant. There's a chance that I could fall every time I walk down a flight of stairs, but that doesn't mean that I confine myself to the first floor of buildings.

Last, addressing the "consequences" argument; sex stopped being about procreation when Sodomites figured out that you can stick it in the pooper. Sex =/= babies. Sex = sex.

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[info]slicemasterx
2009-04-28 05:23 pm UTC (link)
I'm not really on either side of the fence on this one. It depends on the circumstance that the abortion is being called for, I think.

Then again, I don't believe people should be making babies in the first place. The planet's way too overpopulated as it is.

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[info]woopsiedaisie13
2009-04-28 09:48 pm UTC (link)
I'm pro choice. Not because I care about women, or don't care about babies. I am just self-centered.

I'm pro choice because I don't care what other people do with their babies. I've never met the child in her stomach. And if it's killed, whats it matter to me? I still don't know the child. Life goes on and I am, for the most part, unaffected.

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